Scandinavian Import ID Challenge - Needle in Haystack Quest?

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rikuhelin1
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Re: Scandinavian Import ID Challenge - Needle in Haystack Quest?

Post: # 72534Post rikuhelin1
Sun Dec 20, 2020 5:03 pm

Hi Margit,

Good potential lead to chase, leaves more like "Na". Got to agree about the head scratching lack of any strong spino influence on the leaves (and still hardy so far). A little stronger on the canes but not overwhelming. I am use to "fern - like" spino leaves, and extremely thorny (bristly) young canes on my spinos until aging reduces the "bristle fur" to a few annoyingly long sharp ones.

This was the first year it bloomed, and it did not repeat. Other than for a early yellow tint, and then a weak "green" tint, they stayed white until nearly spent or hit by water. I do not remember a fragrance of note.

I never saw an "eye" naturally exposed in the first year of blooms (8-12), should pulled one apart to see. It is in all day sun, except for the early morning.

This year was the first for developing real canes likely to be indicative of habit. They are bolt upright so far, meaning no real pronounced arching ... maybe 2-3 feet. I think I can cautiously eliminate some of the classics so far, but it still early days.

MidAtlas
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Re: Scandinavian Import ID Challenge - Needle in Haystack Quest?

Post: # 72535Post MidAtlas
Sun Dec 20, 2020 8:57 pm

For what it's worth, the closest of known varieties that came to mind for me was 'Karl Foerster'. I don't necessarily think that's it, but maybe it would be something to at least consider if you haven't (though you probably have).

rikuhelin1
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Re: Scandinavian Import ID Challenge - Needle in Haystack Quest?

Post: # 72536Post rikuhelin1
Sun Dec 20, 2020 10:50 pm

Hi Stefan

That’s another good suggestion - don’t recall planting one in that spot ... but that means pretty well nothing as recycle growing spots quite often and old forgotten roses presumed departed will pop up. . Have one in the back north gardens thats on it last legs ... though can’t say if cold or tree roots doing it in like with a Golden Wings (a favourite) in same north side garden. Both have not bloomed in years.

Though there is probably many roses with Na lancet “leaf form”. The best l can remember so far is Dr F L Skinner. Of course it’s not that rose - just convenient mine one is directly across from Na’s location - and produces some of the biggest seed packed hips - Altaica again with (Johanna Hill and / or Hazeldean).

Next year if canes hardy and blooms again l am going to do “rigorous” note taking and keying - no hips this year and if repeated it must be either “blocked” to pollinators or sterile ...

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