Starfish effect

[shoy]

Just noticed this this morning. From the first bloom of one of last year's seedlings.

[cathymess]

This is an interesting petal shape. Did either parent have this petal shape, or ruffled petals?

Cathy
Central NJ, USA
zone 7a

[Karl K]

I have seen scalloped petals on some roses that normally don't have them. 'Ellen Willmott' is an example.
http://bulbnrose.x10.mx/Roses/Rose_Pict ... lmott.html

And on June 27, 2000, 'Crimson Glory' and 'Mission Bells' joined 'Ellen Willmott' in looking especially fancy.

[roseseek]

You also have the famous scalloped petaled, "Oak Leaf seedling" pictured in Philips and Rix' "The Quest for the Rose". Carolyn Supinger, of Sequoia Nursery, said people would write and call her for years inquiring about that seedling. Ironically, it had never before, or since, that photograph, demonstrated scalloping of the petals. Later, Mr. Moore did raise a few which had more scalloped petals, but nothing to that extent. I'm finding some of the Art Nouveau seedlings to have really quite decent plants with healthy, attractive foliage and excellent vigor to have truly awful flowers. When there are petals, this has lovely color, but the flowers look like this most of the time. I've also seen the heavy scalloping in Ellen Willmott.

But, then one comes out like this..

Nothing had eaten the malformed blooms. They simply didn't form the other petals as well as they did the few almost formed ones.

[jbergeson]

Very interesting, Kim! I can't wait to use Art Nouveau. I think it would be fun to plant a ton of OP seed from that deformed seedling.

[roseseek]

Would you like the seedling, Joe? I can easily bare root and send it to you? Otherwise, I'm going to cull it. It's going to be later this year before the yard will be in any shape to plant in the soil. 300+ canned roses are way too many to mess with, so culling is being accomplished rather ruthlessly.

[lafllin]

Well kim when they turn out like that it's totally worth it :D

[jbergeson]

Kim, thank you.... despite my initial enthusiasm I think i'd better pass and work with Art Nouveau directly.