Chrysler Imperial thorn variability?

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Re: Chrysler Imperial thorn variability?

Post: # 74582Post roseseek
Mon Jun 20, 2022 9:50 pm

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Re: Chrysler Imperial thorn variability?

Post: # 74595Post pacificjade
Fri Jun 24, 2022 7:42 am

[quote=Don post_id=56774 time=1404223084 user_id=157]
It is a waste of time to work with classic, out of patent HT's and floribundas unless your copy is VID. In my experience roses from bix box stores are worse than worthless as breeders because they are heavily virus infested.

I've had a clone from even Star infected.

As far as I understand, these larger operations sometimes need root stock material from wholesalers commonly not known to the public, and even places like UC Davis.

Extreme weather damage or worker mishaps, etc., cause shortages, and the managers have strict timelines, so they have to go and get root stock material somewhere other than their own fields just to make ends meet. Also, the source, even when they VID, make mistakes. I know of an example, but unsure if that would be considered corporate gossip so I'll stop there. For the sake of argument, lets just say it can happen.

But I do agree that the farther away from the most known sources are more likely than well-known sellers to have some virus oopsies being sold.

It truly sucks, because $10 to 50 and 3 years down the road it suddenly appears and one thinks, "So that is why you had the vigor of a tic tac..."

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