Pink then Green

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Warren
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Pink then Green

Post: # 54792Post Warren
Mon Nov 18, 2013 12:07 am

I bred this little seedling called 7H 45G. It has the nack of opening light pink and then over a few days turns green. This green bloom shown here is 2weeks old and growing out doors in a paddock, very tough bloom.
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AndrewBarocco
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Re: Pink then Green

Post: # 54793Post AndrewBarocco
Mon Nov 18, 2013 1:05 am

Looks like it has at least one florist rose in its recent ancestry. Would I be right in that assumption?

Warren
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Re: Pink then Green

Post: # 54794Post Warren
Mon Nov 18, 2013 1:19 am

Andrew no florist roses in this one, seed parent was a HT I bred myself and the pollinator was a floribunda. This seedling is completely thornless.

Bernhard
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Re: Pink then Green

Post: # 54795Post Bernhard
Mon Nov 18, 2013 3:55 am

Howdy Warren.
to cite Goethe: " Alles ist Blatt"............
I got a similar bloom this year from 'LdV' x'Ballerina':

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The plant is still trashed due to heavy PM :-(

cheers
Bernhard

Warren
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Re: Pink then Green

Post: # 54796Post Warren
Mon Nov 18, 2013 4:18 am

Hi Bernhard, this type of colour change gives uniqueness to a seedling, are you going to trash this one of yours because of PM? This One of mine is quite clean, I am going to bud it within the month to see if there is any growth change.

cheers Warren

Bernhard
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Re: Pink then Green

Post: # 54797Post Bernhard
Mon Nov 18, 2013 4:44 am

Warren wrote:....................... are you going to trash this one of yours because of PM?.................
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yes, the uniqueness was too stringent :-)

cheers
Bernhard

Peter Harris
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Re: Pink then Green

Post: # 54798Post Peter Harris
Mon Nov 18, 2013 10:45 am

Some of you may remember the Harkness rose called Greensleeves.
http://www.helpmefind.com/rose/l.php?l=2.3116

It isn't always easy being green.

Peter

kim rupert
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Re: Pink then Green

Post: # 54799Post kim rupert
Mon Nov 18, 2013 10:59 am

Sheila McQueen was an improvement over Greensleeves, and we mustn't forget Mint Julep and Table Mountain. A week ago, I presented the Burrito Method to the Santa Clarita Rose Society and was drawn to a bouquet of roses I thought surely must have been Mint Julep. Kitty Belendez said they were St. Patrick, though I'd never seen it THAT green. Most often it was just yellow for me. The best thing I raised from Greensleeves was Quinceanera. http://www.helpmefind.com/rose/l.php?l=2.39744

jriekstins
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Re: Pink then Green

Post: # 54801Post jriekstins
Mon Nov 18, 2013 12:11 pm

That is a pretty rose, esp., with the ruffled edges. I have had several pretty nice looking green roses but none nice enough to save. Lynn Anderson and Walking On Sunshine can both produce either pale yellows that fade to green or pale pinks that fade to green. My two biggest problems have been that the flowers last forever and turn brown before dropping (if ever)or in the 2nd and 3rd yr the flowers were so large and heavy they just sagged on the bush, looking really sad. Last yr I had one that I thought might be a keeper at last, but it regularly developed so much proliferation it looked like doves had just hatched in the middle, much of the time. I have a photo on the other computer which I may try to post--it is quite funny.

Warren
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Re: Pink then Green

Post: # 54802Post Warren
Mon Nov 18, 2013 2:01 pm

Bernhard I see what you mean now by the PM

warren

lafllin
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Re: Pink then Green

Post: # 54813Post lafllin
Tue Nov 19, 2013 2:25 am

Such a pretty rose, isn't PM possibly a local problem? Like different strains of black spot?

seilmi
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Re: Pink then Green

Post: # 54820Post seilmi
Tue Nov 19, 2013 4:44 pm

That's a shame because the blooms are really pretty. Is it possible that it would out grow the PM tendency when it matured?

Bernhard
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Re: Pink then Green

Post: # 54823Post Bernhard
Wed Nov 20, 2013 8:24 am

lafllin wrote:Such a pretty rose, isn't PM possibly a local problem? Like different strains of black spot?
the reasons for PM are not only the local conditions. The cause is simply the sensitivity inhereted. BS is a good keyword, If you take a closer look on the last pic you will also observe some.
seilMI wrote:That's a shame because the blooms are really pretty. Is it possible that it would out grow the PM tendency when it matured?
indeed, but he available space is short and I must care not to get a 'rose messie syndrom' (rose hoarding disorder). So, rose selecting is quickly done...........

cheers
Bernhard

Judith Singer
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Re: Pink then Green

Post: # 54824Post Judith Singer
Wed Nov 20, 2013 9:57 am

Our experience here in the desert is that the high degree of chlorophyll in the petals make it a good hot-weather rose. I have a very weird scrawny green rose seedling with crinkled petals (code name: Keester) bred from one of my seedlings "Flora" which is a Louise Estes x Marilyn Monroe cross. Flora too has a high degree of chlorophyll (probably inherited that from MM) and the blooms last FOREVER on the bush. I am keeping Keester for breeding, because the foliage is really nice and I'm dying to find out what it would produce, lol. Just starting to be mildew season here - THAT would probably send it to the trash bin. As for St. Patrick, I have had almost lime green blooms on my bush in the fall at times. Never had a bloom with good form though, unlike Kitty who wins in shows a lot with it.
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Warren
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Re: Pink then Green

Post: # 54839Post Warren
Thu Nov 21, 2013 3:05 pm

Judith this one of mine fairs very well in 40 celcius + no scorching at all

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