Roses with relatively better Japanese beetle tolerance

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david zlesak
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Roses with relatively better Japanese beetle tolerance

Post: # 71608Post david zlesak
Sun Jun 07, 2020 2:26 pm

A friend at the U of Minnesota is a biochemist and they are looking at biochemical components between genotypes of a specieis that differ for tolerance with the goal to understand that source of better tolerance/resistance for future deterrent sprays, etc. They are looking at grapes, birch, and I think some other groups of plants and would love to work with roses. There isn't too much out there about different levels of tolerance between roses. Some sources say darker colored roses are more tolerant, but then when I look at 'Hope for Humanity' blooms year by year covered with beetles, it doesn't seem to fit.

It seems like polyanthas and minis may be bothered less and maybe taller, larger roses are bothered more. Wonderfully fragrant roses like Dee-LishTM seem to draw lots of beetles to the flowers. I remember years ago when Francis Meilland was an AARS test rose noticing it wasn't bothered as much as the neighbors, so that one may be promising for the study.

Any insights for which roses (especially if they are commonly available) seem to be better than others that she could try would be greatly appreciated.

henry kuska
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Re: Roses with relatively better Japanese beetle tolerance

Post: # 71610Post henry kuska
Sun Jun 07, 2020 4:22 pm

Illusion. See my post at:

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jbergeson
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Re: Roses with relatively better Japanese beetle tolerance

Post: # 71611Post jbergeson
Sun Jun 07, 2020 5:00 pm

I'm so glad I don't have those little buggers yet.

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Post: # 71623Post Jwindha
Mon Jun 08, 2020 9:55 pm

My observations for the past few years have been that my pink roses are devoured by beetles far more frequently than my yellow roses. In particular, they are very fond of Rosa palustris. So much so that at the height of the beetle season, I use a wide, shallow container of soapy water to knock them into because it’s able to catch more of them as they fall.

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wickertgardens
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Re: Roses with relatively better Japanese beetle tolerance

Post: # 71636Post wickertgardens
Wed Jun 10, 2020 5:02 pm

My roses are surrounded by 12 acres of concord grapes, so there are a ton of Japanese Beetles. If anyone comes up with some info, I'd love to see it.

Henry- Thanks for the link to the old posts. Quite a bit of useful information in there. I planted some garlic around some roses this year to see if that might keep them away.
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Re: Roses with relatively better Japanese beetle tolerance

Post: # 71691Post SGreen
Tue Jun 16, 2020 9:10 pm

I don’t know any that are resistant. I learned to buy varieties that open inside after being cut in a tight bud. I remember Mr Lincoln being a good one.

dgermeys
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Post: # 71701Post dgermeys
Wed Jun 17, 2020 4:12 pm

https://denvergardeners.wordpress.com/2 ... an-others/
In the first year of this multi-year study, the following rose cultivars were not found to be damaged by Japanese Beetles: Angel Face, Debut, Hondo, Joseph’s Coat, Mardi Gras, Picotee, Popcorn, Prima Donna, Ralph Moore, Singin’ in the Rain and White Lightnin’.

Conversely, the following cultivars were observed to have the highest levels of Japanese beetle destruction: Pink Promise, Honey Perfume Whisper, Love and Peace, Day Breaker, Strike it Rich, Cherry Parfait, Eureka, Starry Night, Rainbow Knock Out, Lady Elsie May, Carefree Delight and June Lover.
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dgermeys
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Re: Roses with relatively better Japanese beetle tolerance

Post: # 71702Post dgermeys
Wed Jun 17, 2020 5:21 pm

I have never seen such a Japanese beetle overhere but... I would think... if the beetles come from Japan, then there is a bigger chance that Japanese species roses are less susceptible to this insect. So I would look into rosa rugosa (hybrids) but maybe also into rosa multiflora hybrids?
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bvanderhoek
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Re: Roses with relatively better Japanese beetle tolerance

Post: # 71707Post bvanderhoek
Thu Jun 18, 2020 12:08 am

It's peak Japanese beetle season in my part of Georgia right now. Twice a day, I make the rounds of the garden with my "poisoned chalice"--a Solo cup full of soapy water. When the air is warmer, the beetles seem to be more on the alert and it's harder to knock them into the cup for their last bubble bath. Morning and evening are better.

Most large-flowered roses (shrub, HT, Floribunda, climber) that are in bloom are targets, regardless of color. The beetles seem to go for flowers when they are available. Favorite beetle fodder: About Face, McFarland Rose, Carefree Celebration, Carefree Sunshine, White Drift. But they also love rose leaves--The Gift, Henri Martin, and all Rugosas (these are not currently in bloom) seem to have tasty leaves.

Spinossissimas are long past their spring flush, but their leaves don't seem to be palatable. Minis also seem less popular. I have two young Teas, both recently planted and not in bloom; no beetle visits on these so far.

I have a potted hibiscus on the patio and often find a solitary beetle chewing away at its leaves as well. No accounting for tastes!

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Re: Roses with relatively better Japanese beetle tolerance

Post: # 71708Post bvanderhoek
Thu Jun 18, 2020 12:28 am

Come to think of it, the reason the beetles don't like minis can't have anything to do with height. I have Carefree Celebration/Coral Knock Out planted right next to some minis and minifloras. It's the same height and even flops over on one of them, but the beetles congregate on Carefree Celebration and eat it to rags, and ignore the minis.

I forgot to mention the other species. Rosa carolina, Rosa multiflora, and Rosa setigera seem to have tasty leaves. Leaves of Rosa arkansana, Rosa glauca, and Rosa xanthina are not on the beetle menu. I have seen beetles make a halfhearted attempt at Basye's Blueberry, but why bother when they have McFarland Rose and Frau Karl Druschki so close at hand?

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