Do you use your finger to pollinate?

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Do you use your finger to pollinate?

Post: # 67301Post henry kuska
Mon Mar 12, 2018 11:34 am

"Milbrath, Swenson and other researchers used their bare fingers to apply virus-laden solutions to plant leaves to give them ring-spot disease in experiments"

See:

https://www.upi.com/Archives/1982/05/05 ... 389419200/


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Re: Do you use your finger to pollinate?

Post: # 67303Post sarahconeill
Mon Mar 12, 2018 12:33 pm

Bizarre.
I use cotton swabs.

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Post: # 67304Post henry kuska
Mon Mar 12, 2018 4:04 pm

"In MS, the [b]immune system [/b]attacks the protective sheath (myelin) that covers nerve fibers and causes communication problems between your brain and the rest of your body. Eventually, the disease can cause the nerves themselves to deteriorate or become permanently damaged."

https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-con ... c-20350269

From the links presented earlier:
"Tobacco mosaic virus (TMV), a widespread plant pathogen, is found in tobacco (including cigarettes and smokeless tobacco) as well as in many other plants. Plant viruses do not replicate or cause infection in humans or other mammals. This study was done to determine whether exposure to tobacco products [b]induces an immune response [/b]to TMV in humans."

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Post: # 67306Post mike athy
Mon Mar 12, 2018 10:51 pm

I confess to doing all my pollination using my finger. Considering how many people in this world work with pollen I am sceptical that these two fellows died of PNRV. I wonder what the carrier in the "virus laden solution" was? Don't stop eating your veg folks.
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Post: # 67310Post roseseek
Tue Mar 13, 2018 12:49 pm

I also wonder what other shared risk factors the subjects were exposed to.
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Re: Do you use your finger to pollinate?

Post: # 67312Post henry kuska
Tue Mar 13, 2018 1:34 pm

"Tobacco smoking has been shown to cause cancers [6], heart disease [7], and chronic obstructive lung disease [8]. It also increases the risk for development of multiple autoimmune disorders such as rheumatoid arthritis [9] and multiple sclerosis [10], [11], [12]_"

H.Kuska comment: please note "and multiple scierosis".

The above is from the article cited earlier discussing TOBACCO MOSAIC VIRUS:


http://journals.plos.org/plosone/articl ... ne.0060621

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Post: # 67316Post mnemko
Tue Mar 13, 2018 7:46 pm

From 1987 to 1997, I did a fair amount of pollinating, all with my finger. I''ll be starting again this spring. To date, I am as healthy as wichuriana.
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Re: Do you use your finger to pollinate?

Post: # 67332Post henry kuska
Thu Mar 15, 2018 10:24 pm

mnemko, roses have a temperature dependent immune system for many common rose viruses. Here are the monthly temperatures for Oakland.

http://www.areavibes.com/oakland-ca/weather/

The probability of you having health problems due to getting an autoimmune disease from infected rose pollen is probably much lower than it would be in a cool climate since the virus will be mainly in the roots during much of the flowering season.

https://sites.google.com/site/temperatu ... virus/home

Even in a cool climate one is talking probability - for example, not everyone who was/is exposed to tobacco mosaic virus will get multiple sclerosis. What is being considered here is the possible application of the precautionary principle.

"precautionary principle
noun
1.
the precept that an action should not be taken if the consequences are uncertain and potentially dangerous"

http://www.dictionary.com/browse/precau ... -principle

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