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Purples/Lavenders for breeding

Postby hoy127 » Sun Feb 11, 2018 10:10 am

Night Owl, Stormy Weather, or Midnight Blue? I rogue plants that lose more than 50 percent of their foliage due to black spot. Has anyone used Poseidon, Florence Delattre?
Stephen
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Re: Purples/Lavenders for breeding

Postby jbergeson » Sun Feb 11, 2018 10:59 am

I can't contribute substantive info, but I love to blab. I have used Midnight Blue quite a bit, and I love its fertility and the rich colors it can impart. But sometimes I wonder what the heck I'm doing using a rose that is California hardy (that is, not hardy) and not necessarily disease resistant. I've also used Blue for You too much and am trying to cut back. BFY seems even less winter hardy in terms of its seedlings disappearing after a winter or two. I had Poseidon but didn't use it much.

In a completely different vein, Ann Endt? Tuscany Superb?
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Re: Purples/Lavenders for breeding

Postby hoy127 » Mon Feb 12, 2018 12:42 am

Still trying to get a sucker of Ann Endt from someone. Our RHA editor has it and I'm in line for one when her plant obliges. Tuscany Supurb (never pruned/never bloomed) reached 7' this year - has anyone else seen that? Stephen
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Re: Purples/Lavenders for breeding

Postby philip_la » Mon Feb 12, 2018 2:11 am

I have heard good things about Poseidon, though I've never grown it. Plum Perfect is marketed as a heat tolerant mauve. Both are Kordes roses.
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Re: Purples/Lavenders for breeding

Postby jbergeson » Mon Feb 12, 2018 9:13 am

I'll keep an eye out for Ann Endt suckers, Stephen.

My Tuscany Superb doesn't get more than about 12 or 16" tall and blooms every year. Its foliage looks horrendous by late summer. But seedlings of it are better.
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Re: Purples/Lavenders for breeding

Postby HamishC » Mon Feb 12, 2018 2:14 pm

Am currently using Big Purple, Outta the Blue and Blue for You paired with various minis, HT/FL and shrubs. Still exploring the manifestations of widely different colour and plant architecture combinations. I would be interested in others experience with these as parents. I’m not chasing hardiness and am generally attempting to pair with healthier partners. B4Y x Katherine Mansfield below.
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Re: Purples/Lavenders for breeding

Postby jbergeson » Mon Feb 12, 2018 4:19 pm

Nice one, Hamish!

Stephen, maybe I should root a piece of this rose for you. Labeled as Tuscany Superb x Persian Yellow but that seems unlikely so I'm banking on it being Tuscany Superb x Morden 6910. I guess it's not really purple, tho.
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Re: Purples/Lavenders for breeding

Postby Plazbo » Mon Feb 12, 2018 4:51 pm

There are two mini's (although hmf doesn't list any sources outside AU which only makes sense for one of them) that I like and both are fertile, maybe their lineage will be of use though

https://www.helpmefind.com/rose/l.php?l=2.73569.3
https://www.helpmefind.com/rose/l.php?l=2.20720.0

Moon River is a bit less reliable than Gras Blue....Gras Blue smells strongly like citronella though (not the biggest fan)
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Re: Purples/Lavenders for breeding

Postby hoy127 » Thu Feb 22, 2018 10:12 pm

Joe;
I'd be glad to try it out! In fact, if you want to send me a jpeg and a brief description I'll feature a photo of it in an upcoming issue of Singularly Beautiful Roses. Do you have my email?
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Re: Purples/Lavenders for breeding

Postby jbergeson » Thu Feb 22, 2018 10:47 pm

Stephen - done. Sent you an email.
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