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2017 Virginiana Hybrids

Postby Warren » Mon Dec 18, 2017 8:14 pm

This first lot is a (Sympathie X R. virginiana) X R.carolina.
There are three variations of this cross. Type 1 has prickles only at the leaf joint/bud. Type 2 is thornless while Type 3 has low compact growth.
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(Sympathie X R. virginiana) X R.carolina Type 1
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(Sympathie X R. virginiana) X R.carolina Type 2
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(Sympathie X R. virginiana) X R.carolina Type 3
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Re: 2017 Virginiana Hybrids

Postby david mears » Mon Dec 18, 2017 9:20 pm

Hi Warren, to my eye I like "type 2", can you explain if possible why R.virginiana has the influence ?
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Re: 2017 Virginiana Hybrids

Postby Rolf Sievers » Tue Dec 19, 2017 7:51 am

This seedling is a cross of Rosa virginiana x Quatre Saisons.
The Rose has a strong Fragrance, is fertil and blooming until autumn.
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Re: 2017 Virginiana Hybrids

Postby tsilvers » Tue Dec 19, 2017 10:39 am

I love it Rolf!
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Re: 2017 Virginiana Hybrids

Postby Warren » Sun Dec 24, 2017 3:51 am

This is a seedling from last year Wendy X (Valkeeri X [Charles Austin X ( Mimas X R.virginiana)]. It has a very quick repeat.
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Wendy X (Valkeeri X [Charles Austin X ( Mimas X R.virginiana)]
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Valkeeri X [Charles Austin X ( Mimas X R.virginiana)] The pollinator
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Re: 2017 Virginiana Hybrids

Postby tsilvers » Tue Dec 26, 2017 8:11 am

Looks to be fairly compact too? That would be especially nice, but either way, I like it Warren!
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Re: 2017 Virginiana Hybrids

Postby Warren » Wed Dec 27, 2017 2:41 am

Thanks Tom, the Wendy X (Valkeeri X [Charles Austin X ( Mimas X R.virginiana)] is even more compact than the pollinator.
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Re: 2017 Virginiana Hybrids

Postby Warren » Wed Dec 27, 2017 4:15 am

A Hybrid virginiana/ Hybrid Musk.

[Charles Austin X ( Mimas X R. virginiana)] X Red Ballerina
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[Charles Austin X ( Mimas X R. virginiana)] X Red Ballerina
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Re: 2017 Virginiana Hybrids

Postby Warren » Fri Dec 29, 2017 12:44 am

This is a 2017 seedling of Fru Dagmar Hastrup (T) Type 2 X [ Disco Lemonade X [(Sympathie X R.virginiana) X (Mimas X R.virginiana)]]
Seedling S5 T140
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Re: 2017 Virginiana Hybrids

Postby Don » Fri Dec 29, 2017 11:09 am

My f1 virginianas send out rampaging suckers regardless of the cross. I'm wondering how many generations removed from the species you have managed and whether that propensity to sucker remains in them?
What doesn't kill them makes them stronger.
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Re: 2017 Virginiana Hybrids

Postby Warren » Fri Dec 29, 2017 5:42 pm

Hi Don;
I agree some of the F1's do send out suckers, the worst was a F1 (Sympathy X R.virginiana) which I pollinated with itself to form an inbreed line. This one has been the worst in suckering. After two generations away from R.virginiana this habit seems to stop. Those which I have bred with R.virginiana represented on both sides of the parentage, show no suckering.

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Re: 2017 Virginiana Hybrids

Postby Warren » Fri Dec 29, 2017 8:06 pm

This another hybrid seedling, Fru Dagmar Hastrup (T) Type 2 X [ Disco Lemonade X [(Sympathie X R.virginiana) X (Mimas X R.virginiana)]]
Seedling S5 T140 Type 1. The growth structure is completely different from that of S5 T140 Type 2. This seedling stands at a height of 100cm/ 3ft.
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S5 T140 Type 1
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S5 T140 Type1
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Re: 2017 Virginiana Hybrids

Postby Warren » Mon Jan 01, 2018 8:31 pm

interesting colour combo
Seedling S79 T220 Hybrid Musk/Hybrid China/ Hybrid virginiana/Hybrid brunonii

[Ten Thousand Lights X (Kathleen X Pauls Himalayan Musk Rambler)] X [(Mimas X R.virginiana) X Freasia]

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Re: 2017 Virginiana Hybrids

Postby philip_la » Wed Jan 03, 2018 12:41 am

Very fun blossom on that last one, Warren, and some very nice seedlings all around. Is the last one a mature form, or one of the earlier blossoms?

You have some very impressive seedlings to show for your work, and as someone with limited resources (time and land) I am curious, if you don't mind my asking, how many seeds do you process/plant per year, and how much acreage/hectares do you have for growing on your seedlings? Not to be indiscreet in my queries, but I am often impressed by the prolific breeding of others and sometimes feel I have comparably limited potential.

Several very nice looking seedlings across your recent posts, and I'm happy to vicariously share in your successes! Thank you for that!
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Re: 2017 Virginiana Hybrids

Postby Warren » Wed Jan 03, 2018 2:38 am

Hi Phil
thank you. This is a 2017 seedling which has flowered multiple times already.
I sow up to 1000 seeds per season, but sometimes less and all are grown out in a double house block at home. I cull all that have PM or have lack of vigour, around Summer I have the second cull, which maybe those seedlings which may develop BS and again lack of vigour. Do not think that you have limited potential? the secret is to secure multiple breeding lines which you can totally rely on for future success. I have a good idea what results I get from the breeding lines I have developed.

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Re: 2017 Virginiana Hybrids

Postby Warren » Thu Jan 11, 2018 6:16 pm

A Virginiana Hybrid seedling for this year.

Seedling S43 T42 :-[ Westerland X [Charles Austin X (Mimas X R.virginiana)]] X Bamako.
Foliage is very clean, plant compact and bushy.
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Re: 2017 Virginiana Hybrids

Postby Warren » Sun Jan 14, 2018 9:36 pm

These are the offspring of seed parent S7 (Sympathie X R.virginiana) single bright red bloom.

Seedlings S7 T164:- (Sympathie X R.virginiana) X a seedling of [(R.calocarpa X R.nutkana) X R.acicularis] Type 4
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Re: 2017 Virginiana Hybrids

Postby Warren » Sun Jan 14, 2018 9:39 pm

These are the offspring of seed parent S7 (Sympathie X R.virginiana) single bright red bloom.

Seedlings S7 T170:- (Sympathie X R.virginiana) X a seedling of [(R.calocarpa X R.nutkana) X R.acicularis] Narrow leaf glossy form.
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Re: 2017 Virginiana Hybrids

Postby Warren » Sun Jan 14, 2018 9:41 pm

Seedling S7 T139 (Sympathie X R.virginiana) X High Roller
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Re: 2017 Virginiana Hybrids

Postby Warren » Sun Jan 14, 2018 9:44 pm

Seedlings S7 T100A (Sympathie X R.virginiana) X Lamarque
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