Wedding Bells -- anyone growing/crossing with this one?

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philip_la
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Wedding Bells -- anyone growing/crossing with this one?

Post: # 66451Post philip_la
Mon Nov 13, 2017 12:28 am

I'm not sure what I would make of the architecture of this HT -- I'm more of a landscape rose kinda guy. But the form of the blossoms and purported health of the bush do cause me to sit up and take notice. It is very popular with those who know it, apparently.

Anybody have any impression about this rose and it's usefulness for breeding?
Philip F.
Zone 8 / Sunset Zn 30 (Austin, TX -- formerly New Orleans, LA)

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Post: # 66452Post jbergeson
Mon Nov 13, 2017 8:40 am

I had one in a pot for a couple-three years and never used it much. I think I just let it go. Perhaps I'm prejudiced against hyuge blossoms because I assume they'll never be hardy. Now you got me reading about its health on HMF and questioning myself.

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Post: # 66459Post philip_la
Mon Nov 13, 2017 2:52 pm

Top rating for resistance to BS on Kordes' site as well, and the only four star reviewer (all others 5) was because reviewer couldn't detect the fragrance as described. https://www.kordes-rosen.com/gardenrose ... ding-bells

Well-reviewed on Garden Web too: http://forums2.gardenweb.com/discussion ... ding-bells

I just wondered what attributes it might pass on. My guess is probably just a dominant pink coloring?
Philip F.
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Re: Wedding Bells -- anyone growing/crossing with this one?

Post: # 66471Post rodrigomendes
Wed Nov 15, 2017 2:57 pm

Hi Philip,

I have Wedding Bells rose, 3 years old, It is a very good rose, almost BS immune, even here in southern Brazil. It makes huge and full blossoms. I can't tell you yet about his inheritance because I used It for the first time this year, as a seed parent crossed with Rosarium Uetersen, who is pink too. (But WB has a very little yellow collor at the beggining of petals, who knows! Maybe It has yellow genes.) The only seedling from that cross is very small yet. I get It from embryo extracting.
Low points of WB: slow grower, not that fragrant, medium to low fragrant. For me usually makes partially open hips. Besides, I love It.

Rodrigo

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Post: # 66475Post philip_la
Fri Nov 17, 2017 12:53 am

Thanks, Rodrigo.
Of course, it's pink. To be a pink rose that's worth adding to a collection, it probably needs to have something pretty exceptional going for it, IMO. Good to know that it sets viable seeds -- though no indication of seeds per hip nor viability rates. If I see it on a clearance rack, it sounds like one I will nab, otherwise, I will wait to learn if it truly is a must-have. I will, in particular, be curious to know if its seedlings are all pink, or can be painted different colors using other parents.

The slow growth might not be a bad thing in view of the near-species roses I would like to consider mating her with...

Thanks for your insights.
Philip F.
Zone 8 / Sunset Zn 30 (Austin, TX -- formerly New Orleans, LA)

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Post: # 66476Post hoy127
Fri Nov 17, 2017 10:58 pm

Very healthy here in central GA - black spot paradise.

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Post: # 69165Post philip_la
Thu Jan 31, 2019 11:28 am

Still seeing nothing but phenomenal reports on this (*sigh*... pink) HT.

This rose is not as readily available as e.g. Beverly, it seems. Beverly is viewed as more fragrant, but in every other regard, the reviews on GardenWeb and elsewhere put Wedding Bells over the top for health and performance. I know Pierre extolled it's virtues in the Riviera, saying it far exceeded Meilland's highly rated Prince Jardinier/Francis Meilland. (And a Frenchman extolling a German rose above those of his compatriots at that! ;-) ) It appears to do well everywhere from (some locales in) zone 4 all the way down into s. FL, zone 10. (HMF has zn 5 and up.)

Stephen, did you use it in any crosses? Has anyone else done anything with this rose int he last year

(BTW, anybody know what has become of Pierre? I have come to realize that a number of members from yesteryear appear to no longer be active, and I hope the are all well, and still hybridizing!)
Philip F.
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Post: # 70789Post rodrigomendes
Wed Dec 25, 2019 6:07 pm

It seems like ages of waiting but now I have the first bloom of my single seedling from Wedding bells x Rosarium uetersen
It is a rambler rose, mild fragrance
It is very BS resistent, a little suscetible to rust, a nice healthy rose. I can't take good pictures of the full habit because It is growing over and between other roses, I really need to fix things here.
Thank you guys for all the knowledge that I found here
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Post: # 70790Post mntlover
Wed Dec 25, 2019 6:34 pm

Beautiful rose! I like the coloring at the edge of The petals like that.
Duane

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Post: # 70793Post rodrigomendes
Fri Dec 27, 2019 8:52 am

Fully open now
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Post: # 70796Post bvanderhoek
Sat Dec 28, 2019 8:25 pm

Beautiful!

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Post: # 70800Post philip_la
Mon Dec 30, 2019 11:56 pm

Sorry I've been slow to acknowledge your follow up, but that is a very nice-looking bloom IMO.

I hope someone will confirm or contradict me, but my impression with Kordes seedlings is that they can take a long time to start showing their true potential, and you might well have a rose that settles into a steady rebloomer. (I have only a handful of Kordes seedlings in my garden from 2018, and none have bloomed so far for me despite all of them being crossed with good repeaters.)
Philip F.
Zone 8 / Sunset Zn 30 (Austin, TX -- formerly New Orleans, LA)

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Post: # 70803Post srpshoy
Wed Jan 01, 2020 3:50 pm

It may be available on Fortuniana from K&M Roses. I got it from them.

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Post: # 70866Post mntlover
Sun Jan 12, 2020 6:06 pm

What a beautiful rose!!! Now you have me wondering if I should be looking at Wedding Bells.
DUane

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