A meeting place for rose breeders.
Sun Sep 17, 2017 1:18 pm
Hello, I hybridize roses since 2002. At first, my process was very artisanal, paper and pencil. Then I switched to an Excel file due to the increase in the number of my hybrids. Now, I have developed a software to help me in the management of roses hybridization. Who else among you is using a dedicated software? https://www.facebook.com/BeeMyRose/
Sun Sep 17, 2017 8:57 pm
Pedimap may be of interest to people here. It allows you to build lineages: https://www.wur.nl/en/show/Pedimap.htm
Fri Sep 22, 2017 3:21 am
Thank you very much for that reference.
The Pedimap software deals with the lineage based on a precise knowledge of the genes while I base my software on the phenotype, on the overall appearance of the rosebushes (petals, color, shape, perfume ...). As amateur breeder and not scientific I can’t go down to the level of precision of the gene.
Do you use Pedimap on a daily basis in your hybridization process? I look forward to continuing this discussion with you.
Sun Nov 12, 2017 2:45 pm
The software BeeMyRose ™ will help you to select the best of your rose hybrids
BeeMyRose ™ ensures the traceability of your hybridization processes and, based on your own selection criteria, allows you to rank the performance of your plant creation. Thanks to the strong horticultural knowledge of its designers, BeeMyRose ™ easily integrates the specificities of your company.
Do not hesitate to contact us, we will answer very gladly and very quickly to your questions.
Mon Nov 13, 2017 6:30 pm
Am I missing sonething, I don't see any mention of Beemyrose software on your facebook page?
Tue Nov 14, 2017 3:00 pm
We decided that the Facebook page "https://www.facebook.com/BeeMyRose/" would rather be intended to show beautiful photos of unique roses created by individuals interested in hybridization.
In order to discuss in a more technical way, and to answer to the needs of hybridizers, we rather exchanged with specialists on the "roses breeders" forum.
If you have any questions about the software, I will be happy to answer.
Tue Nov 14, 2017 3:28 pm
Well I would like to see it.
Sat Nov 18, 2017 5:00 am
I received a very interesting question about BeeMyRose : “Could you tell me, does BeeMyRose allow for recording the seedlings’ characteristics also not just pedigrees of parents?”
My answer : BeeMyRose allows to identify individuals/entities. The Identification/recording can be made for seedlings or, as you prefer, later after the plantation.
This identification generates the creation of a barcode, linked to the pedigrees of the father and the mother, but also to specifics characteristics of the individual. With the barcode, an “Identity Card/ Health Booklet” is generated. On the IC/HB, a space for notes will allow you to notify anything you want: like the size of the seedlings, their conservation process, their excision's type, the color....
BeeMyRose is also a software that develops modules that could be added according to the needs of the customers.
Sat Nov 18, 2017 11:25 am
Are you selling this software, giving it away or just bragging about it?
Sat Nov 18, 2017 3:17 pm
Yes Don, it would be good if an answer to your questions came from them.
Sat Nov 18, 2017 4:43 pm
Here is an overview of BeeMyRose software. Best regards.
If the image does'nt appear please click on the url below :https://www.facebook.com/BeeMyRose/photos/a.339329089846794.1073741830.324492274663809/368113843634985/?type=3&theater
Sun Nov 19, 2017 12:39 am
Come on Rose provence, either show us what you are "trying to sell' or give us breeders something to work with.
Sun Nov 19, 2017 12:56 am
I'm not sure what the policy of this forum is regarding marketing of products, and I respectfully note that all 7 of your posts heretofore seem to be self-promotional. As a consequence, folks on this forum are not familiar with you, your reputation, nor your work.
If you have a product that you are hoping to market or share, I think it's fair to say that you will need to find trusted individuals willing to accept that product on a free trial basis, and to give independent evaluations which others can review, before most folks would willingly install an unknown piece of software from an unknown developer on their systems.
With your current M.O., there is not much transparency, and I think most aren't even sure of your intentions.
Sun Nov 19, 2017 9:21 am
I have read all your comments with great interest and I thank you for that. I will take them into account.
Sun Nov 19, 2017 12:35 pm
Regardless of the software, I would be interested to know what roses you have hybridized in the 15 years you have been working on them. I see your photos on facebook but tell us what these are, what roses they came from.
Fri Nov 24, 2017 5:46 am
Thank you for your interest in my hybridation’ work.
I am mostly interested in old varieties of climbing roses.
I work with “Guirlande fleurie (good mother, remontant, red, no perfume) from Robichon 1969”, “Pink Cloud from Boerner, 1952” (dad, remontant, pink, perfume), “Alberic Barbier from Barbier 1900 (dad, non- remontant, white yellow, light perfume) and “Claude Rabbé from Buatois 1941 (dad, non- remontant, white pink, almost no perfume).
My problematics is to produce roses in the harden climate in terms of Provence' temperature and dryness and pH (pH >7,5). My selection criteria are based on resistance to hydric stress, erratic climate of Provence and capacity to be cultivated with less as possible chemicals and technical work (easy to maintain).
“Guirlande fleurie” has a lot of qualities but can't bear my “terroir”. By contrast, Alberic Barbier and Claude Rabbé bear very hard conditions.
I am now on the third generation. A lot of my babies die in the earliest and last year because of the climate it was even worst. The hybrids that I’ve obtained from “Guirlande fleurie” are resistant but very heterogen : pink to red, simple (5 pétals) to double (20 à 39 pétals) ... Because of my way of breeding, this lineage don’t grow like climbing roses but they stay like bushes (linked to my pruning as well).
Each year, I included plants coming from natural hybridization to compare my performance to “artificial / directed” hybridization.
As well, I'm working with violet rose bushes like “Rapsodie in Blue” from Cowlihaw, 1999. My problematics is to obtain "spots" but I’m just beginning with this project.
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