Morning Blush ™ (Alba, Sievers, 1974) × Whimsy

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Morning Blush ™ (Alba, Sievers, 1974) × Whimsy

Postby Rob Byrnes » Tue Apr 18, 2017 2:36 pm

I have 4 seedlings from this hybrid alba cross that are in their second season. Checking on them this weekend I was excited to see that one of them has several buds developing. I hoping that this one will be a repeat bloomer. All exhibit excellent disease resistance and have miniature size leaves. The growth habit suggests that they will be smaller shrubs which is what I was looking for. I expect that these should be fairly hardy...to maybe zone 4? I'd have to test for that.

Sievers' Morning Blush = Maiden's Blush × Hamburger Phoenix
Maiden's Blush = Rosa alba L. × Rosa centifolia L.
Hamburger Phoenix = Rosa kordesii H. Wulff × Seedling

The miniature Whimsy = Teeny Bopper x Double Knock Out. Teeny Bopper has Baby Love (a descendant of R. davidii var. elongata) as a grandfather

There are some great genes at work here.
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Re: Morning Blush ™ (Alba, Sievers, 1974) × Whimsy

Postby jturner » Tue Apr 18, 2017 6:21 pm

Exciting! Please keep us posted on how it blooms.
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Re: Morning Blush ™ (Alba, Sievers, 1974) × Whimsy

Postby Rob Byrnes » Wed Apr 19, 2017 7:21 am

Yes, very exciting. Hope to post pics within the next couple weeks.
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Re: Morning Blush ™ (Alba, Sievers, 1974) × Whimsy

Postby Rob Byrnes » Wed Apr 19, 2017 9:49 am

Back out in the garden last night and I noticed that there is another one of these seedlings that developed a bud. I assumed that this cross would take a few years to bloom so I'm pleasantly surprised.

I also found that one of my crosses from Whimsy x (Easy Going x Suzanne) has a bud as well. This is also a second season seedling. The pollen parent is also known as EGS1.
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Re: Morning Blush ™ (Alba, Sievers, 1974) × Whimsy

Postby roseseek » Thu Apr 20, 2017 2:19 am

Congratulations, Rob! The photos will be quite interesting!
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Re: Morning Blush ™ (Alba, Sievers, 1974) × Whimsy

Postby Rob Byrnes » Thu Apr 20, 2017 8:11 am

Thanks Kim!
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Re: Morning Blush ™ (Alba, Sievers, 1974) × Whimsy

Postby dgermeys » Mon Apr 24, 2017 7:26 am

Hey Rob,

interesting! If it would be a repeat bloomer, let us know! I doubt it, but you never now :-)
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Re: Morning Blush ™ (Alba, Sievers, 1974) × Whimsy

Postby Rob Byrnes » Mon Apr 24, 2017 8:14 am

dgermeys wrote:Hey Rob,

interesting! If it would be a repeat bloomer, let us know! I doubt it, but you never now :-)


It would be wonderful it if repeat bloom but I'm not expecting that. I'm looking to use these to breed with miniatures and small shrubs with increased health. Hopefully repeat bloom in F2.
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Re: Morning Blush ™ (Alba, Sievers, 1974) × Whimsy

Postby dgermeys » Mon Apr 24, 2017 10:22 am

Rob Byrnes wrote: I'm looking to use these to breed with miniatures and small shrubs with increased health. Hopefully repeat bloom in F2.


Try to cross it with "Rosa rouletii Correvon". If I am not mistaken, all roses that have been crossed with this one are repeat blooming ;-)
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Re: Morning Blush ™ (Alba, Sievers, 1974) × Whimsy

Postby Rob Byrnes » Mon Apr 24, 2017 10:27 am

dgermeys wrote:
Rob Byrnes wrote: I'm looking to use these to breed with miniatures and small shrubs with increased health. Hopefully repeat bloom in F2.


Try to cross it with "Rosa rouletii Correvon". If I am not mistaken, all roses that have been crossed with this one are repeat blooming ;-)


Thank you for the suggestion. That one is too tender and a diploid so it wouldn't work for my immediate needs. I have some named minis and some of my own that I'm working with. Thanks again!
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Re: Morning Blush ™ (Alba, Sievers, 1974) × Whimsy

Postby Rob Byrnes » Mon Jul 10, 2017 10:21 am

I have 3 new seedlings that are also from Morning Blush.

They are Morning Blush x 13-1 (Larry Davis).

The pollen parent is (Orange Surprise x First Impression). Orange Surprise is (Carefree Beauty x Rise N Shine) x (Carefree Beauty x Austrian Copper). I had a couple seedlings from this cross germinate in February but lost them to damp off. I'm happy that more germinated and I have a chance to see what comes of this cross. I most likely won't get blooms until at least next season but one never knows...
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Re: Morning Blush ™ (Alba, Sievers, 1974) × Whimsy

Postby Rolf Sievers » Mon Jul 10, 2017 11:32 am

This is "Morning Blush"
Parents: Small Maiden's Blush x Hamburger Phönix

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Re: Morning Blush ™ (Alba, Sievers, 1974) × Whimsy

Postby Rob Byrnes » Mon Jul 10, 2017 1:12 pm

It's a beauty, Rolf. I'm trying to coax something nicely shaped with a great color out of it.
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Re: Morning Blush ™ (Alba, Sievers, 1974) × Whimsy

Postby Rolf Sievers » Tue Jul 11, 2017 3:11 am

Hello Rob,

Whimsy has an interesting background, now we breed a lot with Celebration 2000,
it has a similar background.

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Re: Morning Blush ™ (Alba, Sievers, 1974) × Whimsy

Postby Rob Byrnes » Tue Jul 11, 2017 8:27 am

Rolf Sievers wrote:Hello Rob,

Whimsy has an interesting background, now we breed a lot with Celebration 2000,
it has a similar background.

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Hello Rolf,

I have tried working with Celebration 2000 with no results. I found the fertility to be non-existent. I know Kim Rupert was able to obtain a good F1. Are you using it as a seed or pollen parent, or both?

Thank you for the link to your blog. You have some beautiful roses displayed there.
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Re: Morning Blush ™ (Alba, Sievers, 1974) × Whimsy

Postby roseseek » Tue Jul 11, 2017 11:12 am

I found Rabble Rouser (Celebration 2000) to be worthless as a seed parent and very marginally useful for pollen. The only seedling resulting from the MANY crosses I made with it is Shades of Pernet. It also sets seed, but nothing has germinated from any of them. I use it only for pollen. http://www.helpmefind.com/gardening/l.php?l=2.73790
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Re: Morning Blush ™ (Alba, Sievers, 1974) × Whimsy

Postby Rob Byrnes » Tue Jul 11, 2017 11:16 am

Hi KIm. I'm hoping to get something nice from using the pollen from Shades of Pernet that you sent me.
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Re: Morning Blush ™ (Alba, Sievers, 1974) × Whimsy

Postby roseseek » Tue Jul 11, 2017 11:33 am

Hi Rob! Good luck! I hope it works for you.
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Re: Morning Blush ™ (Alba, Sievers, 1974) × Whimsy

Postby Rolf Sievers » Tue Jul 11, 2017 2:29 pm

Hello Rob,

this is the crossing Celebration 2000 x Salmon Blush. Salmon Blush is a modern alba-hybrid.

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The reziprok cross is also ok. We take only own mother plants.

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Re: Morning Blush ™ (Alba, Sievers, 1974) × Whimsy

Postby Rob Byrnes » Tue Jul 11, 2017 3:15 pm

I hope you get some beauties from that cross Rolf. I've poor luck using Celebration 2000 as a parent but I'm looking at a descendant of that one called Teeny Bopper which is (City of San Francisco ™ × Rabble Rouser) to use as a parent if I can obtain it.
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