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Winter germinations

Postby Rob Byrnes » Sun Feb 05, 2017 1:18 pm

These are the first germinations from this winter:

Denver's Dream x (Easy Going x Suzanne) the pollen parent is known as EGS1. Hoping for a miniature with unique coloring. I'm sure it will be very thorny.

Morning Blush x (Orange Surprise x First Impression) the pollen parent is known as 13-1. Orange Surprise is (Carefree Beauty x Rise N Shine) x (Carefree Beauty x Austrian Copper). I'm hoping for a yellow or peach OGR style bloom with mom's health and rebloom from 13-1.
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Re: Winter germinations

Postby roseseek » Sun Feb 05, 2017 2:23 pm

Good luck, Rob!
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Re: Winter germinations

Postby Rob Byrnes » Sun Feb 05, 2017 10:27 pm

Thanks Kim!
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Re: Winter germinations

Postby Rob Byrnes » Mon Feb 20, 2017 10:14 pm

This one today:

(Golden Angels x R. soulieana) x Campfire

I'm really glad to see this cross germinate. Both parents are very clean here and I like that it is 25% soulieana. Hoping for some pretty blooms and repeat. Something with full bloom form and some yellow would by nice.
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Re: Winter germinations

Postby roseseek » Mon Feb 20, 2017 10:32 pm

I'm glad the Soul. cross appears to be working out for you, Rob!
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Re: Winter germinations

Postby Rob Byrnes » Tue Feb 21, 2017 6:32 pm

Thanks Kim. Hopefully something nice will turn up. :)


For those who aren't familiar with (Golden Angel x R. soulieana) here is a HMF link: http://helpmefind.com/rose/l.php?l=21.145457 There are no descendants listed in HMF so I'm wondering if mine is a first. Has anyone else worked with this soulieana hybrid?

and a link to Campfire, which is hardy to zone 2: http://helpmefind.com/rose/l.php?l=21.250950

Hoping for at least zone 4 hardiness.
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Re: Winter germinations

Postby Rob Byrnes » Thu Feb 23, 2017 6:35 pm

Another germination today that I'm excited about:

Lemon Splash x ((Fragrant Cloud x R. carolina) x R. virginiana)

The pollen parent is Tom Silvers' "3/4 native". I'm very hopeful that this is a hybrid and if so, I should get disease resistance and If I'm real lucky some repeat bloom. I don't know if there are enough genes for repeat bloom or not. Some shade of yellow would be nice. If not, it's a great step forward and maybe I'll get repeat bloom with F2. Thank you Tom for the "3/4 native" plant.
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Re: Winter germinations

Postby tsilvers » Fri Feb 24, 2017 2:20 pm

You're very welcome Rob! And thanks for your interest in working with it.

I got at least one repeating seedling from the mother of "3/4 Native" by crossing to 'Carefree Sunshine'. It's possible "3/4 Native" carries some of those same repeat genes from 'Fragrant Cloud' - the doubled flowers definitely trace back to that Hybrid Tea maternal grandmom.

As you said, you've got a good shot of getting some disease resistance in either case.

I've got some crosses of "3/4 Native" that should be germinating soon too, so hopefully one of us will figure out this season, whether it's a repeat carrier or not.
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Re: Winter germinations

Postby Rob Byrnes » Fri Feb 24, 2017 7:39 pm

Tom,

I'm hoping we learn more about "3/4 Native" this season and it's potential for passing on resistance and repeat bloom.

Today's germination:

Strawberry Banana Swirl x Splashed!

The mother is Cal Poly x Strawberry Cream (miniature; Byrnes). The father is Splash of Color x Splash of Color (a red/white striped miniature of mine). Mom is extremely healthy but didn't repeat well her first couple of seasons and I'll be trying fresh soil with a good fertilizer to see if I can promote better repeat. Splashed! is a really nice red and white striped miniature of mine that repeats well. When I did the cross I was hoping to create a nice striped miniature with some shades of yellow, peach or apricot. Mom has nice coloring and form. I hope these are passed on.

Strawberry Banana Swirl - http://helpmefind.com/rose/l.php?l=21.290723
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Re: Winter germinations

Postby Rob Byrnes » Sun Feb 26, 2017 4:11 pm

A couple of germinations today:

~ Bella Nitida x R. Woodsii 'Kimberly'

This combines genes from R. nitida, R. rugosa and R. woodsii. From its HMF page: "Introduced 1998. A selection of Wood's rose from the wild near Kimberley, BC, by W. Nicholls, UBC Botanical Garden. This vigorous clone exhibits compact growth with glaucous leaves, red petioles and young stems, suckering and superior flowering compared with typical forms."

I'm not sure what to expect from this cross other than hardiness and disease resistance. Semi-double blooms and compact growth would be nice.

http://www.helpmefind.com/gardening/l.php?l=21.219867

http://www.helpmefind.com/rose/l.php?l=21.247973

~ Apricot Twist x "3/4 Native". Another cross using Tom Silvers' "3/4 Native", this time with an apricot miniature. Will there be repeat?

http://www.helpmefind.com/rose/l.php?l=21.104737
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Re: Winter germinations

Postby roseseek » Sun Feb 26, 2017 4:29 pm

Neat!
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