2017 germinations

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Re: 2017 germinations

Postby hoy127 » Thu Mar 16, 2017 12:13 pm

150 plus germinations here in central GA. Yellow Brick Road is producing some very double cream/light yellow colored OP seedlings that look vigorous and healthy. I got one seedling from a cross of Lynnie x Campfire - a very surprising dark red.
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Re: 2017 germinations

Postby roseseek » Thu Mar 16, 2017 2:23 pm

Neat! The foliage seems very "Lynnie".
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Re: 2017 germinations

Postby hoy127 » Sat Mar 18, 2017 6:48 pm

In previous post I mentioned some cream/light yellow Yellow Brick Road seedlings. Today a nice gold colored seedling opened.
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Re: 2017 germinations

Postby aimbeault » Sun Mar 19, 2017 4:19 pm

Here are some germinations among my 2016 crosses that have been took off from the fridge since Mars 8, after 11 weeks and that have had also 11 warm weeks before cold treatment.

R. rugosa Alba x Dr Harry Upshall, 1 seedling / 10 seeds
Roseraie de l’Haÿ x King J, 80 / 343
Roseraie de l’Haÿ x J5., 4 / 5
King J x J5, 21 / 296
Caroyal x Hazeldean, 3 / 127
(Ross Rambler 3 x Louise Bugnet) x Prairie Peace, 5 / 88
Ross Rambler 14 x King J, 11 / 167
Geschwind’s Nordlandrose x Applejack, 2 / 31
Geschwind’s Nordlandrose x R. fedtschenkoana, 1 / 44
Applejack x R. fedtschenkoana, 1 / 57
Thérèse Bugnet x R. fedtschenkoana, 7 / 16
Monte Rosa OP x Tour de Malakoff, 1 / 5
(G49 x Applejack) OP, 1 / 22
Scarlet Ranger OP, 1 / 5

I am very astonished to have obtained 1 Scarlet Ranger seedling after a lot of trying. I am surprised also with Thérèse Bugnet x R. fedtschenkoana cross and the results of Roseraie de l’Haÿ as mother plant, impressive! I have, of course, high hopes to have maybe some yellow tints with crosses with pollen of J5, Prairie Peace and Hazeldean. We will see what will happen, if they survive, à suivre...!
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Re: 2017 germinations

Postby roseseek » Sun Mar 19, 2017 10:26 pm

You have some very interesting results there! Congratulations!
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Re: 2017 germinations

Postby aimbeault » Tue Mar 21, 2017 9:13 pm

Thank you Kim for your remark, it is very appreciated.
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Re: 2017 germinations

Postby roseseek » Wed Mar 22, 2017 1:37 am

You're welcome, Andre! Many here work with things I just can't grow. It's fun seeing what can be coaxed from the more cold hardy roses. I have to "satisfy" myself using much less hardy stock. Such as...

Mexican pink R. Minutifolia X Pure Bea, the white Mexican Minutifolia
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And, Nessie (Montecito X Mlle Cecile Brunner (presumably)) X Annie Laurie McDowell
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Re: 2017 germinations

Postby philip_la » Wed Mar 22, 2017 5:35 am

That last one promises to offer some fun beasts, Kim, and I don't know why, but minutifolia is a plant that certainly intrigues... Will the white likely dominate? Do yours provide continuous bloom in your climate?
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Re: 2017 germinations

Postby roseseek » Wed Mar 22, 2017 3:09 pm

Thanks, Philip. I'm delighted to finally be able to play with both Nessie and ALmD. Robert Rippetoe has raised some results from both, but we work in different directions so we should (hopefully!) experience different results. Minutifolia (and Stellata mirifica) both repeated throughout summer in Newhall, Encino and apparently here in Santa Maria as long as they have sufficient drainage and are given summer water. That makes harvesting pollen all summer a lot easier.
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Re: 2017 germinations

Postby jturner » Fri Mar 24, 2017 12:31 pm

It's great to see folks using species and near-species roses in their crosses. It will be fun to see what genetics they add to the hybrid gene pool. I kept my seeds colder this winter, so that they wouldn't all start germinating in the Fall like they did last year. Most of my 4500+ seeds are still in the fridge, but the ones I've taken out are starting to germinate in earnest, about 200 seedlings so far.

R. webbiana x General Schablikine
((Livin' Easy x R. kordesii) x Lavaglut) x Scarlet Moss
((Livin' Easy x R. kordesii) x Lavaglut) x Sonia
Ebb Tide x ((Livin' Easy x R. kordesii) x Lavaglut)
Ebb Tide x Rose Gilardi
Lasting Love x ((Livin' Easy x R. kordesii) x Lavaglut)
Lasting Love x (Schoener's Nutkana x Coral Dawn)
(Fabulous! x (Schoener's Nutkana x Coral Dawn)) x (Lilac Charm x Schoener's Nutkana)
(Magenta x Lilac Charm) x Mons. Tillier
Golden Angel x (Danae x Mutabilis)
(Gemini x Prairie Princess) x Golden Angel
Gemini x Golden Angel
Gemini x Apricot Twist
Gemini x Cafe Ole
Gemini x (Ebb Tide x Julia Child)
Gemini x Moondance
Sonia x Apricot Twist
Sonia x Golden Angel
Golden Angel x Sonia
Fabulous! x Apricot Twist
Fabulous! x ((Magenta x Lilac Charm) x Apricot Twist)
Fabulous! x ((Magenta x Lilac Charm) x Cafe Ole)
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new for 2017

Postby Junie Burns » Fri Mar 24, 2017 1:51 pm

philip_la wrote:That's a very nice first bloom, Jackie. (I have a thing for mutable roses.) I hope it develops into something nice and healthy.
Ramblinrose, what is the parentage of that one? Nice contrast on the stripes.


Thank you. so far it is doing great and is nicely scented. it is an offspring of Fourth of July x Diamond Eyes.
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Re: 2017 germinations

Postby ramblinrose » Wed Apr 05, 2017 12:02 pm

[quote="ramblinrose"]all of my hips fell off last year out of several crosses. I was told that it may have been the heat it got hot here early last year.
I collected seeds from my 2014 hybridizing from some of my promising seedlings, however nothing has sprouted as of yet.
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I have seedlings popping up from open pollination of this rose.
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Re: 2017 germinations

Postby jriekstins » Fri Jun 09, 2017 4:33 pm

I want to post a photo of my only seedling to sprout from a lone hip of this cross from R. minutifolia that I mentioned above previously. Rosa minutifolia must have some somewhat unexpected genetics that possibly 'play well' with others. It's only single (heresy to say that), it closes at night, and it fades a bit, but not badly, and perhaps worst of all it does pick up some mildew. I think that will clear up a bit with growth and age. Hopefully. It is very vigorous, a quick repeater, and has a very nice habit of low branching. So far only single blooms per stem. At first I wasn't sure that this was maybe just a 'self', but the somewhat thin leaves and the growth habit is so unlike anything in the seed side of the family. It is almost thornless which I find unaccountable considering minutifolia.
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Re: 2017 germinations

Postby david mears » Fri Jun 09, 2017 6:09 pm

Hi Jackie, it is beautiful and yellow. It will be interesting to see what sort of height it attains. Kim R. has also posted that he might have coaxed Rosa minutifolia into do something. Well done Jackie.
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Re: 2017 germinations

Postby jriekstins » Fri Jun 09, 2017 7:42 pm

[url]http://pushingtheroseenvelope.blogspot.com/search/label/R.%20Minutifolia[/url]

David, If you have not checked out Kim's minutifolia on his blog do so now at the above link. It will be interesting to see what happens with his newest seedlings. I hope to have a few more next season with the several hips that have set. I have run out of pollen for this yr. and somewhere in between February and March of this past rainy season, my minutifolia drowned. It definitely was not a high rainfall specie. Luckily I had saved some pollen with its' intermittent bloom cycle.
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Re: 2017 germinations

Postby roseseek » Sat Jun 10, 2017 12:56 am

Congratulations, Jackie! I am not sure what it is about Minutifolia and prickles, but both the Lynnie X Minutifolia and the L56-1 X Minutifolia lines are low to no prickles. Good for you, you got yellow. I have coral, pink, white and various shades of red.
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Re: 2017 germinations

Postby david mears » Sat Jun 10, 2017 5:07 am

Hi Kim, Jackie got yellow, I must ask her how, only joking LOL
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Re: 2017 germinations

Postby jriekstins » Sat Jun 10, 2017 1:14 pm

Kim,
I saw your post-those are fantastic, and yes this is still prickle free with only the slightest prickles on the rhachis (undersides of leaf). As for the yellow, I seem to have a yellow dominant shrub that has not been foolproof but very reliable. I am trying this ones (the (MBR66xMDMT) X minutifolia) pollen on a few crosses for next yrs seed. To early to tell if it is viable. Many of the minutifolia crosses I did for this yr have already fallen off, but hopefully a few will persist.
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Re: 2017 germinations

Postby roseseek » Sat Jun 10, 2017 2:36 pm

Thank you, Jackie! As I just posted on the other thread, perhaps the Minutifolia inspired hips ripen and fall early, so we should be grabbing them while we can to plant? Couldn't hurt!
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